1 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:08,549 the month of february is national 2 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:11,200 african american history month and nasa 3 00:00:15,190 --> 00:00:13,120 joins the celebration and honors the 4 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:15,200 contributions of african americans to 5 00:00:18,150 --> 00:00:16,800 the cause of space flight and space 6 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:18,160 exploration 7 00:00:22,070 --> 00:00:20,320 recently my colleague gary jordan had a 8 00:00:24,390 --> 00:00:22,080 chance to talk with nasa astronaut 9 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:24,400 jeanette epps and he asked her what the 10 00:00:28,630 --> 00:00:26,320 observance of african american history 11 00:00:31,429 --> 00:00:28,640 month means to her in terms of space 12 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:31,439 exploration 13 00:00:36,150 --> 00:00:33,920 well as far as um the month it's just a 14 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:36,160 month of celebrating the accomplishments 15 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:37,760 and the contributions of african 16 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:40,800 americans to the united states and so 17 00:00:44,950 --> 00:00:43,520 it's just a moment to reflect back and 18 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:44,960 think about all the things that have 19 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:46,239 happened over the 20 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:49,760 decades and centuries and how 21 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:51,520 how many contributions have been made 22 00:00:55,350 --> 00:00:54,079 and to be proud of it and and hopefully 23 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:55,360 other people will look at it and say 24 00:00:59,029 --> 00:00:56,399 yeah 25 00:01:00,790 --> 00:00:59,039 we're proud of of what the contributions 26 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:00,800 all the different cultures in the united 27 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:02,640 states have contributed to making it a 28 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:04,159 great place to live 29 00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:05,600 honestly and that's what makes the 30 00:01:09,109 --> 00:01:07,439 international space station so great too 31 00:01:11,429 --> 00:01:09,119 it's a combination of cultures and 32 00:01:13,990 --> 00:01:11,439 diverse thoughts um so tell us a little 33 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:14,000 bit about you uh how did you end up here 34 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:15,920 well i'm i was one of those kids who 35 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:17,600 never thought i'd be selected to be an 36 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:19,840 astronaut but i did want to become an 37 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:22,080 aerospace engineer so um when that 38 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:23,680 little sea was planted in my brain when 39 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:25,280 i was nine years old 40 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:27,920 i it stuck with me so through the years 41 00:01:32,390 --> 00:01:30,000 i went to school undergraduate for 42 00:01:34,950 --> 00:01:32,400 physics and then on to graduate school 43 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:34,960 for aerospace engineering and you know 44 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:36,960 to kind of further my knowledge of 45 00:01:41,910 --> 00:01:39,520 engineering and to apply to different 46 00:01:43,270 --> 00:01:41,920 places i went to the ford motor company 47 00:01:44,550 --> 00:01:43,280 and while i was working there i was 48 00:01:46,389 --> 00:01:44,560 recruited to work at the central 49 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:46,399 intelligence agency as a technical 50 00:01:49,670 --> 00:01:48,399 operations officer and while i was 51 00:01:51,190 --> 00:01:49,680 working there you know some of the 52 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:51,200 operational things that i was doing as 53 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:53,200 well as the very technical scientific 54 00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:55,600 things kind of made me think well maybe 55 00:01:59,830 --> 00:01:57,680 it's time to apply to the astronaut core 56 00:02:01,749 --> 00:01:59,840 a friend of mine leland melvin actually 57 00:02:03,190 --> 00:02:01,759 gave me a call and said they're looking 58 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:03,200 for applicants you may want to think 59 00:02:07,270 --> 00:02:04,479 about applying 60 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:07,280 and so i did and lo and behold here i am 61 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:10,000 in 2009 i was selected and it's been six 62 00:02:13,910 --> 00:02:11,599 and a half years here six and a half 63 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:13,920 great years of a lot of training and a 64 00:02:18,309 --> 00:02:16,000 lot of good stuff less than two weeks 65 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:18,319 ago i returned from language immersion 66 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:21,120 and that was five weeks in moscow 67 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:23,920 living in a hotel doing classes and 68 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:26,160 fending for myself in russian 69 00:02:31,509 --> 00:02:29,200 and that was a great experience um i 70 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:31,519 would love to do it again it's just um 71 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:33,840 time is of the essence it was it was an 72 00:02:38,470 --> 00:02:36,080 amazing thing to do and to have the time 73 00:02:39,430 --> 00:02:38,480 set aside to actually go and learn a 74 00:02:41,589 --> 00:02:39,440 language 75 00:02:43,589 --> 00:02:41,599 priceless because as we get older and 76 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:43,599 older work takes over and you don't have 77 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:46,400 the time but this is my job so it's kind 78 00:02:51,270 --> 00:02:48,720 of kind of cool thing to have done so 79 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:51,280 over the years i've done um robotics 80 00:02:57,589 --> 00:02:54,080 training i've done spacewalk training 81 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:57,599 i've done t-38 training iss systems 82 00:03:00,949 --> 00:02:58,560 training 83 00:03:03,030 --> 00:03:00,959 and you know i've even got to the chance 84 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:03,040 to do a couple of fun things like nemo 85 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:04,800 one of the nemo missions 86 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:07,440 that was a great deal of fun 87 00:03:12,309 --> 00:03:09,599 spent nine days underwater 88 00:03:14,949 --> 00:03:12,319 um i even had the chance to do 89 00:03:16,949 --> 00:03:14,959 geology training in hawaii 90 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:16,959 so tell us about um 91 00:03:22,630 --> 00:03:19,599 the impacts of space exploration where 92 00:03:24,789 --> 00:03:22,640 you see it going uh in the coming years 93 00:03:27,190 --> 00:03:24,799 well i think um you know since we've 94 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:27,200 done a lot of work in low earth orbit 95 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:29,760 and i think there's a huge push amongst 96 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:32,560 enthusiasts to go to mars so i think the 97 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:35,200 next steps will be taking those baby 98 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:37,519 steps to get us to mars they're not baby 99 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:39,040 steps but because we've done a lot of 100 00:03:44,869 --> 00:03:41,440 work in low earth orbit what's the next 101 00:03:47,509 --> 00:03:44,879 thing we have to develop systems 102 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:47,519 radiation protection systems um even 103 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:49,440 waste management systems to get us all 104 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:51,599 the way to mars and to sustain us in 105 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:53,680 mars you know do we want to take that 106 00:03:57,830 --> 00:03:56,000 much logistics with us just to get to 107 00:03:59,670 --> 00:03:57,840 mars so in the meantime we want to 108 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:59,680 develop the propulsion systems and other 109 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:01,599 things like that that'll help get us 110 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:03,120 there faster 111 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:06,720 different things we have to do in the 112 00:04:10,949 --> 00:04:08,640 meantime but a lot of the research that 113 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:10,959 we're doing right now on the iss 114 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:14,560 lends to that so with a one year mission 115 00:04:19,030 --> 00:04:16,799 with scott kelly we're learning a ton of 116 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:19,040 things about the human body and how we 117 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:20,720 can sustain life 118 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:24,400 without gravity our bones our muscles 119 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:27,040 even down to the cellular level so 120 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:28,000 there's a lot of things that we're 121 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:30,960 learning now that will all be applied to 122 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:33,040 space exploration and because there's a 123 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:35,440 lot of enthusiasts out there and you 124 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:37,520 know stem is a big part of this whole 125 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:39,120 thing 126 00:04:42,629 --> 00:04:40,560 we're pushing the boundaries and there's 127 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:42,639 a lot of people getting involved in stem 128 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:44,960 because of the space program so we're 129 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:46,560 we're pushing the boundaries up to get 130 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:49,199 us out to mars and beyond so there's a 131 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:51,440 lot of great things happening now and we 132 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:53,440 are working every day towards the goal 133 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:55,199 of getting to mars 134 00:05:00,070 --> 00:04:57,199 the mars mission we are hoping to get 135 00:05:02,310 --> 00:05:00,080 there in the 2030s and that means that 136 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:02,320 kids in school right now may be selected 137 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:04,639 to be astronauts to be the first person 138 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:06,720 to be put their boot print on mars so 139 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:08,880 tell us a little bit about 140 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:10,880 what kids should be studying right now 141 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:12,639 in order to be an astronaut in the 142 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:15,280 future for mars well i think um you know 143 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:16,960 developing an analytical brain and 144 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:18,800 developing the thought process you have 145 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:20,400 to take science 146 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:22,720 in school mathematics as well in these 147 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:24,400 classes even though they're tough 148 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:26,320 doesn't mean that you don't try them 149 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:28,639 anything that you don't know is hard so 150 00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:30,560 once you learn it it becomes a lot 151 00:05:35,110 --> 00:05:32,720 easier so just getting in 152 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:35,120 into any kind of physics biology 153 00:05:39,909 --> 00:05:37,360 chemistry class and even any mathematics 154 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:39,919 class makes you a better thinker thinker 155 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:42,160 even learning a language helps you to 156 00:05:46,230 --> 00:05:44,240 become a better thinker 157 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:46,240 so getting involved in these 158 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:48,880 classes that are uh have in the past 159 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:50,400 students have thought oh they're so hard 160 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:52,960 i'm not going to take those classes and 161 00:05:57,270 --> 00:05:54,560 getting over this fear of something 162 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:57,280 that's hard and not wanting to learn it 163 00:06:01,590 --> 00:05:59,840 is is a big thing so i think once you 164 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:01,600 learn something you realize it's not as 165 00:06:05,909 --> 00:06:03,840 hard as you thought but taking the time 166 00:06:07,990 --> 00:06:05,919 to learn it that's that's all it is 167 00:06:10,629 --> 00:06:08,000 putting the time in to learn these tough 168 00:06:13,270 --> 00:06:10,639 classes to get to move the united states 169 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:13,280 and the world beyond low earth orbit to 170 00:06:17,909 --> 00:06:15,440 get us to mars so take those tough 171 00:06:19,909 --> 00:06:17,919 classes do the tough thing and and don't 172 00:06:21,909 --> 00:06:19,919 be afraid to take a challenge an 173 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:21,919 excellent piece of advice and having 174 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:24,160 that diverse skill set is something that 175 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:27,520 we need uh here at nasa uh dr jeannette 176 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:28,880 epps thank you for being with us today 177 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:31,520 it's been an absolute pleasure um dr